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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 20 2013, 01:05 AM (3,894 Views) | |
| * Yu Narukami | Jan 20 2013, 01:05 AM Post #1 |
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Now, what I'm about to suggest may be strange. I think that the moderation of this forum should be more influenced by the regular members. As you know, they're the ones that provide the activity for the site. I've noticed that the moderation for the Z-section is just a bit short of horrendous. We've got Necifix and Copy_Ninja who cover next to all of the issues there. This is no fault of their own; the amount of activity in the Z-section is massive and its preposterous to think that just two people could handle it all. Plus, I understand that they're busy a lot of the time. As such, a lot of things 'slip through'; trolls, spammers, duplicates, etc. Yes, regular members can report, but with only two moderators that are very well-versed in DBZ, it gets pretty difficult. A lot of members are getting increasingly frustrated at the condition of the Z-section. Hell, a lot of them have resorted to spamming themselves just because they're unable to handle the stuff that happens there. Now, I think that Moderators should do a bit more to reach out to these members. I seldom see Moderators taking an active role in their duties, its commonly as a response to a report or something of that nature. I think they should be more aware of what's going on. A lot of the time, the actions of the staff aren't what they should be; both extremes are there. If Moderators are more aware of what's occurred in the past and what's going on now, they can be more effective in their duties of making this a better place. I'm not going to lie, I've been rather frustrated at the relative ineffectiveness of the staff as of late. I realise that some of it is beyond their control, but a lot of things have gone under the radar that should've been dealt with swiftly. The pakl raid, for example. It went on for a while, before Copy came on. I'm not saying that I expect Moderators to be on 24/7, just that they should prepare for things such as this. I'd love some feedback from other members too, if that's alright. Naked Snake. |
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Jan 20 2013, 01:09 AM Post #2 |
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I agree. I am sort of baffled how a Pakl thread went 20 pages on here with no one doing anything. I realize that the activity is massive, however I am sure he was reported at least 3 times and the latter half of that thread was nothing but massive spam. |
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| * Bex | Jan 20 2013, 01:14 AM Post #3 |
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Problem-solver Question #1 before anybody goes any further: Have you been using the report buttons? If you don't report it, we might not see it. |
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:15 AM Post #4 |
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Drew, thanks for expressing your concern on this topic. I give Copy, Zero and Neci full credit for moderating the DB section. I rarely moderate there because I never engage in discussions about DBZ anymore. I do however respond to all the reports I see from that section and this past week I've warned 2 members in a DB discussion and gave 2 verbal warnings to everybody all in different threads. I encourage every member to report every single post they deem as inappropriate, spammish, offensive, off topic. EVERY post. I promise that actions will be taken on my end and I never ignore a report to save me work. I didn't see reports on that Pakl's thread and I have no idea why it took so long for a mod to take action there. I'm also going to try to visit the DBZ sections more often. We're mods but we're an equal part of this community as you members are. We all help the forum grow and stay in order, and once again I ask everyone to use the report button every time they think a post should be seen by a mod. Edited by Strawberry, Jan 20 2013, 01:16 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jan 20 2013, 01:15 AM Post #5 |
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Indeed. Many of the members have been using the report button. As BukLau pointed out, we all reported several posts in a thread made by a notorious troll, yet the thread went on for 20 pages, despite continued reports. |
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:16 AM Post #6 |
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Please link me to that thread? |
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| EMIYA | Jan 20 2013, 01:17 AM Post #7 |
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I agree, there's too much of a lack of of attention when it comes to these things. Now I troll every once in a while too, I'd be a hypocrite if I said I didn't, but I also try to express my serious side just as much and I only try to troll in a topic that I know doesn't need to be taken serious or has gotten so out of hand that there's no point in taking it serious. But a more proper moderation would be great. There are dozens of people on here that would be great moderators not only for their knowledge but just the fact they're on more often than once. To me, a topic being trolled for 2-4 pages is one thing, but when it gets so out of hand (Something I probably don't exactly do stop, admittingly) that's when it becomes bothersome. |
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| Cal | Jan 20 2013, 01:21 AM Post #8 |
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I agree. The DB/Z section(s) are flirting with the line of sub-par sections to Other Versus-tier (which you don't want to be). I'm not fussing on anyone for not being smart or anything in that section considering 99% of people here know more abuot dbz than me, but the section is turning into a huge turn off and more-so to the people who are serious about it. I think it all comes down to whether or not you want the forum to be quality and what purpose we want the forum to serve. Lately what have we done from a member and staff member standpoint? Brought back dbzf news, brought back podcasts, increased activity in Graphics Section, rebooted the spam section, etc. What have we done dbz related? Professor Gohan started a debate tourny (which is really cool), but I think what's needed is a better mod presence in the db/z sections and I don't just mean reading reports and telling people to quit being immature or the thread will be locked. Lead by example. Get active in the db/z sections. Stay in there, hell even become a regular there. I'm even trying and I don't like dbz but I find it difficult when the forum as a whole has let the quality drop by such a margin. My thoughts and thanks for the topic Drew. |
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:21 AM Post #9 |
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I'm waiting for a link to that thread in particular so I can investigate what went wrong. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jan 20 2013, 01:21 AM Post #10 |
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http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8393392/14/#new Now, 20 pages may have been an over-exaggeration on the part of me and BukLau, but the point still stands. Its 12/13 pages too long. We all reported, and nothing was done about it. We all resorted to spamming because attempting to hold a serious debate with that member was impossible. A suggestion that may be appropriate; If the current staff aren't that available a lot of the time, get some members that are. |
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| * Bex | Jan 20 2013, 01:22 AM Post #11 |
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So the Pakl thread HAD been reported? But Kris is saying she hadn't seen any reports, which suggests either they weren't actually sent, or a mod supposedly dealt with it. If a mod did deal with it, how long would you say they took to do so? And how did they deal with it? Warnings? Thread closure? Edit - I'd also like to remind you that 'dealing with a troll' isn't an acceptable reason to spam. Even if it takes some time you should just leave the topic and wait for it to be dealt with. Edited by Bex, Jan 20 2013, 01:23 AM.
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:25 AM Post #12 |
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This too. Thanks for the link, Drew. I can now confirm I got absolutely no reports from this thread. Can everyone who made reports say so in this thread? Just to see how many reports were done. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jan 20 2013, 01:25 AM Post #13 |
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Why? So a person can post incorrect, illogical **** that no-one wants to see? Well, Copy started dealing with it when it was past its mid-point. Banning the accounts. Pakl kept coming back and it wasn't fully absolved until Necifix came and closed the topic. |
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:29 AM Post #14 |
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Spamming is not okay, Drew. And it won't stop someone from posting whatever they want if they do want to troll. Next time just stop posting until a mod takes action, which hopefully wont take as long. A question to the mods (and be honest) -- who got reports from that thread? Edited by Strawberry, Jan 20 2013, 01:30 AM.
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| * Bex | Jan 20 2013, 01:32 AM Post #15 |
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A troll being a jackass gives you the right to be a complete jackass around the forum as well? I don't think so. That logic doesn't sit well within the rules and the way things work here. If a troll is spamming or flaming or whatever, the staff will deal with them. If you ignore them then they won't be able to get any fun out of you for winding you up. Let's just use the phrase "Don't feed the trolls" to describe what I mean. Now another thing I'd like to say is that the Pakl thing is an isolated case. Pakl usually appears using dupes and stuff and unfortunately that's not something moderators can handle much past deleting posts and threads due to Pakl being a member that needs the touch of an admin to stop him from coming onto the forum which mods don't possess; i.e. the ability to IP ban. |
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